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January 1 1968
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January 1 1968

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How do you rate the universities?

CONGRATULATIONS on Dr. C. Wellington Webb’s A Consumer’s Report on Canada's Top Universities. In his ratings chart (The 20 Best Campuses), however, he might have mentioned that the proximity of the Public Archives, the National Library, the Supreme Court Library, and the libraries of various government departments give the graduate student at Carleton University opportunities for research far beyond that of students who have only their own university library to call upon. What’s more, most of Carleton’s professors in political science and international affairs have, or have had, close contact with the world of practical politics and the Department of External Affairs, and pass on the benefits of this experience to their STUDENTS.-GARRY L. FAIRBAIRN, CARLETON UNIVERSITY, OTTAWA

* Prof. Webb’s rankings nowhere sug-

gest the university as a “community of scholars,” but rather as a production factory for research. The criteria which “educators recognize” (which educators?) are singularly geared to graduate education. I do not at all agree that excellent graduate implies excellent undergraduate instruction, or, more importantly, that the former is a necessary precondition for the latter. More specifically, 1 would think that one would want to look at such factors as the proportion of undergraduates going on to graduate work and receiving fellowships, per capita library holdings and the rate of library acquisitions, etc. It is somewhat ludicrous to set up a “bigness” criterion and then to say that the biggest are subsequently the best. - R. W. CROWLEY, ASSISTANT PRO-

FESSOR, DEPT. OF ECONOMICS, QUEEN’S UNIVERSITY, KINGSTON, ONT.

I take as a personal insult your rating York lowest on your list. Webb has the audacity to laud the University of Toronto on its number of Woodrow Wilson Fellowships. He did not mention that York is Ontario’s leading university in the number of fellowships per capita! We’re small but we’re good!

DOUGLAS MEWSON, GLENDON COLLEGE, YORK UNIVERSITY, TORONTO

* As a consumer at Bishop’s University, I was somewhat taken aback to discover that in Dr. Webb’s estimation I was buying a defective product. Though, like any intelligent student at any institution, 1 have occasionally seriously questioned the value of the education I was receiving, 1 never felt that it was “at the very bottom of the scale.” On second reading, 1 realized that the scale was so fixed as to ensure a low rating. Bishop's has never been, and does not pretend to be, a primarily graduate-oriented university. The standards by which Dr. Webb attempts to judge us are, therefore, irrelevant. Using five other criteria more nearly related to the ends which Bishop's attempts to serve — admission standards, student-faculty ratios, availability of science facilities, opportunity for serious participation in extra-curricular affairs, and percentage of students going on to graduate studies — one would arrive at a radically different conclusion. What distresses me most is Dr. Webb's equation of educational excellence with the

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Small universities can be good / They don’t all love Joey

size of the institution, and of professional excellence with academic eminence. This. I think, indicates a serious prejudice against liberal arts colleges in general.

PETER J. YI ARWOOD (EDITOR-IN-CHIEF.

The Campus), BISHOP’S UNIVERSITY, IEN-

NOXVILl.E, QUE.

* Has Dr. Webb completely forgotten that Bishop's has contributed a great deal

to the cultural life of the country? It has produced graduates who have acquitted themselves in a most commendable fashion in Canada’s public life, business and as scholars. Small European universities that have contributed so much to progress, to the arts and science would not have qualified, according to Dr. Webb’s yardstick, to be considered worthwhile.—DR. K. E. HAAS, ST. LAMBERT, QUE.

* In the ratings, it is stated that the University of New Brunswick “offers doctoral programs in English and history.” UNB offers doctoral programs in 10 areas. Secondly, while the campus does have sets of gates at each of its two entrances, there is no wall, and there never has been a wall around its more than 3,000 acres, as Dr. Webb suggests.—ALAN PACEY, DIRECTOR, DE-

PART MENT OF INFORMATION. UNIVERSITY OF NEW BRUNSWICK. FREDERICTON

Editors note: Dr. Webb didn’t deny that UNB offers doctorates in 10 areas. He implied that it dared to offer PhD programs in the highly researched fields of English and history "despite a library of only 186.000 volumes.” We apologize about the wall. It just seems to be there.

* The assertion that “in Newfoundland, Premier Smallwood’s program of free university tuition has won him the undying — and unquestioning — loyalty of a generation of Memorial students’’ is an unwarranted assumption with no foundation in reality. The advent of free tuition and allowances in Newfoundland has in no way altered the fundamental attitudes of Memorial students toward the government of Premier Smallwood. Criticism and dissent are as prevalent on this campus as in the days before free tuition. Political clubs of every shading a.e as active now as then, if not more so. — SCOTT PARSONS. COUNCIL OF THE STUDENTS’ UNION, MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY, ST. JOHN'S

* Your criteria are a giant farce. Graduate offerings are irrelevant as far as undergraduates are concerned. Large library holdings are often comprised of dusty old volumes that are 20 years out of date. Science facilities are irrelevant as far as the thousands of undergraduates in arts, humanities and social sciences are concerned. Prestige staff, as Prof. Webb admits, avoid undergraduates like the plague. Give me a yardstick such as the average size of freshman and sophomore classes and the access these students have to PhDs, full professors and good teachers, both in the campus bar. and in the university.—w. E. MCLEOD. INSTRUCTOR, BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DEPT., ST. CLAIR COLLEGE. WINDSOR, ONT.

* The article implies that a great many of the students of the University of Windsor are engaged solely in the provocative act of encouraging U.S. students into becoming draft-dodgers and offering a haven of safety across the border. This was done by a minority group, which now ceases to exist; it did not have university approval, or the approval of the majority of students.

FRED HIND, WINDSOR. ONT.

* Has Dr. Webb failed to mention Simon Fraser University simply from ignorance, or is it jealousy? Surely everyone else connected with education has heard of Simon Fraser’s unique method of training teachers. In three short years it has proved to be one of the most effective methods in North America.

G. CLARK, COQUITLAM, BC

* It is regrettable that the myth of W.

L. Mackenzie King’s leadership in the University of Toronto student strike of 1895 continues to be perpetuated, as it is in Douglas Marshall’s article. It is more regrettable that in his lifetime King did nothing to correct the story of his heroic role. My father, the late James Alexander Tucker, was unquestionably the hero, or martyr, of that unhappy affair. King simply withdrew. Unfortunately. members of the university "triumvirate" — my father, the late “Tom" Greenwood (Lord Greenwood) and A.

M. Chisholm — can no longer defend their position. My father died at 32. He was acting editor of Saturday Night. Th : university authorities having refus'd to let him take his degree, he had gone to Lelar.d Stanford. I have a card, possibly the only one now in existence, asking students to contribute toward sending him to another university. An accurate account of the strike can be found in

The Age of Mackenzie King, by N. S. Ferns and Bernard Ostry (Heinemann).

MRS. F. M. PRATT. OTTAWA

Douglas Marshall replies: ‘7 erred in implying that Mackenzie King was the sole leader of the 1895 student strike. However. I made it clear that he was neither the hero nor martyr of the affair by adding: 'King was later accused of playing politics by double-crossing his fellow rebels.' As Mrs. Pratt states, her father was unquestionably one of the moving spirits and chief victim.”

The unidentified unidentified

In reading Look — There's a Plying Saucer!. I was particularly struck by the story of the object that hovered at 30,000 feet near Halifax for three days last August. Isn’t there more to this story than that? Doesn’t it seem odd that no one went up to get a close look at whatever it was?

BRENDAN BROWN, VEGREVILLE, ALIA.

( / ) No. ) Yes.

* There are serious research groups, like Canadian Aerial Phenomena Investigations Committee (Canada's largest: over 1.100 members) and its American counterparts, the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO). CAPIC has found that approximately 98 percent of all the cases it checks turn out to be natural phenomena seen under unusual circumstances. Of the remaining two percent, only about .5 percent remain temporarily unsolved. Responsible organizations cannot possibly jump to the ridiculous conclusion that just because we cannot explain the actions of the UFOs in .5 percent of the cases, these objects must be extraterrestrial vehicles. The possibility is there, of course, but we feel there is insufficient proof at this time to draw any conclusions. ALLAN K. VEZINA. CHAIRMAN. CAPIC INTERNATIONAL. SCARBOROUGH. ONT.

T 1 note the comment that the panic of 1952 could be exceeded in 1968. and I ask myself: Why? Personally. I would welcome any visitors from outer space who might scare the living daylights out of those who are trying to push me into a third world war.

GERTRUDE CAMPBELL. VANCOUVER

PPM: it works

I was delighted to see Maclean's give excellent exposure to psychoprophylaxia here’s a New Way to Have a Baby?). It really works! I trained for about eight weeks before my due date and had the baby with absolutely no medication. For me it was not completely painless, but I never felt the need to be put under, much less sedated. Let's hope that more hospitals will soon follow the lead of St. Joseph's in Hamilton, and that more doctors will look into the possibilities PPM has to offer.

DIANNA YOUNG, WATERLOO. ONE.

* I regret that author Alan Edmonds, in researching, did not discover the excellent services of Grace Maternity Hospital in Halifax. This hospital, working in close association with the Department of Obstetrics at Dalhousie University, pioneered childbirth training in Canada, which included Natural Childbirth. Hospital and staff co-operate to encourage husband-and-wife participation in their Natural Childbirth program (closely allied to PPM and Grantley Dick Read's

philosophy), with emphasis on the husband’s presence during labor — and l have yet to hear of a doctor refusing a husband's request to be present at the DELIVERY.MRS. CATHERINE M. MCQUI EN,

TANTALLON. NS

* I have had two child, en in Grace Maternity, without anesthetic, and have nothing but praise for the staff. The hospital runs a prenatal program of instruction and there is also a “Parents Night" when husband and wife together attend lectures on the physical and emo-

tional changes of pregnancy and childbirth. and how the husband can be of help to his wife.

MRS. ROSEMARY ROWE. HALIFAX

Formula for change

1 fully support your Editorial view that We Can t Run Canada on 17th-century Rules. Your suggestions for change are modest; I would go further. Why not have a continuous process of making a government? We could stagger elec-

tions in each riding so that one or two elections were being held somewhere in the country every week. The benefits: continuity of government; avoidance of pre-election paralysis; parties would never be preoccupied with elections to the point that it would affect their tactics in parliament; public opinion would be reflected quickly at the polls; governments could no longer call elections on dates or in circumstances most favorable to themselves. Second: let MPs take an active part in government. Instead of having ministers responsible for each

“Breakdowns”: less gloom, please / Separatists: get lost

government department, have a parliamentary board of directors for each. The board would be chaired by the minister and would consist of, say, three to five MPs of whom at least one would be from the Opposition benches. In this way the elected representatives would be able to get an intimate knowledge of what goes on in the departments.

JOHN H. HALSHURY, MANOTICK, ONI.

“Nervous breakdown”: disturbing

As a psychiatrist, I must express my dist ress over Jcann Beattie’s article. Nervous Breakdown. I admire the article as a near-perfect subjective description of the painful, almost indescribable, feelings of a person suffering with a depressive illness. Any competent psychiatrist, and most intuitive family doc-

tors, would, from her expressive writing, recognize this as a type of depression frequently seen at the time of the menopause. Calling it a “nervous breakdown" may be good journalism but it is a vague, inaccurate and terrifying term to describe an illness that is simply treated and, almost always, self-limiting. That is, recovery occurs spontaneously, in time. What is disturbing is the im-

pression left by the article that psychiatry is of little help in this problem and, even worse, that this patient’s psychiatrist would desert her as soon as her finances ran out. Chemotherapy — that is, treatment with medications — is dismissed in a single derogatory sentence. E.S.T., or electrical shock treatment, is never mentioned; it is probably the most effective treatment of this type of depression. Depressive illnesses, in general, can be controlled by drugs or E.S.T. or a combination of both. There is no need for any patient with such an illness to go through months and years of agony, as described by the author. Psychotherapy, counseling or psychoanalysis is useless in this type of emotional disorder. To suggest that psychotherapy is the treatment of choice in this type of emotional disorder, and to ignore the more effective treatments is to take away what little hope many people with depressive illnesses have remaining.

UR. (NAME WITHHELD)

Lovers, go home

I am surprised that you would publish such unadulterated rot as The Car People: hive Lovers and a Rebel. What further evidence do we need to prove the extreme immaturity of our society toaay? They simply do not know what to do with the affluence they have.

A. W. CLARKE, WEST VANCOUVER

The daring young men

I have read When the Daring Young Men Took Off Into Clorv From a Newfoundland Pasture, which describes the attempts made, in 1919, to fly the Atlantic. I am the widow of Commander K. Mackenzie-Grieve [navigator for Harry Hawker). My husband had leave from the navy to learn to fly as he had always been a navigator in the RN—not RNAS as the story states. He and Hawker were the first people to be awarded the AFC. They came down 1,100 miles from St. John’s. Their plane was rescued and was on view on the top of Selfridges for many months. As for the reference to my husband carrying a lace handkerchief, this of course is absurd as my husband was a very reserved Scotsman! He died in Victoria in 1942.

JANET C. COX. VICTORIA

Halifax: black and white

Murray Barnard’s reporting on Negroes in Halifax, Black Power v. Ping-Pong (Reports) is slightly out of focus. The area north of Citadel Hill, housing “most of the city’s 10,000 Negroes,” is also inhabited by approximately an equal number of whites, who live in the same poverty-stricken conditions. As to there being no Negroes on the police force, this is simply because the Negro with the necessary qualifications is not interested in this line of work; it in no way reflects the discrimination your article would lead one to believe.

MRS. D. E. GIBSON, OTTAWA

Separatists: enough already

Re Can Ralph Cowan Defeat The French Single-Handed'. How lovely! Let’s have a new Canada based upon the hate of Ralph Cowan and his little band of hatemongers. If there is anything worse than a séparatiste, it is a separatist. Yes, let's separate — and become nothing. Economically, we would fall flat on our noses. I’ve heard more than enough from the separatists of both sides. — MARILYN

MACKENZIE. TEMISCAMING, QUE. ★